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伯纳姆邀请斯温尼共同推进“更深入的苏格兰权力下放”Burnham invites Swinney to work together on 'deeper Scottish devolution'

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伯纳姆表示,他希望斯温尼的政府帮助他为苏格兰带来经济利益。Burnham has said he wants Swinney's government to help him deliver economic benefits to Scotland

总理表示,他在搬进唐宁街后首次对苏格兰进行实质性访问时,希望各地区拥有更多权力。

The prime minister said he wanted regions to have more power while on his first substantive trip to Scotland since moving into Downing Street.

格伦·坎贝尔,詹姆斯·德拉尼 首相已邀请苏格兰政府与英国政府合作,将“权力交还给地区”。

By Glenn Campbell, James Delaney The prime minister has invited the Scottish government to work with the UK government to put "power back in the hands" of regions.

安迪·伯纳姆表示,他希望两国政府在未来几个月内就地区经济发展达成新协议开始工作,其中包括来自工作与养老金部(DWP)的下放权力提议。

Andy Burnham said he wanted the two governments to start work on a new deal for regional economic development in the next few months, including an offer of devolution from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP).

他在北兰开夏郡的一个活动上发表讲话,呼吁在上述协议达成之前,先从苏格兰议会(Holyrood)向地方地区进一步下放权力。

Speaking at an event in North Lanarkshire, Burnham called for further powers to be devolved from Holyrood to local areas before that happened.

伯纳姆发表讲话之前,斯温尼表示,他有兴趣“以建设性方式”与威斯敏斯特合作,并补充说他“完全支持苏格兰议会拥有尽可能多的权力”。

Before Burnham's speech, Swinney said he was interested in "working constructively" with Westminster, adding he was "all for the Scottish Parliament having as many powers" as possible.

伯纳姆承认苏格兰政府正在进行地方政府改革,但表示这必须“加快速度”。

Burnham acknowledged that the Scottish government was working on local government reform, but said this had to "move faster".

他说,政治家们必须“超越宪法问题”,“专注于为当下人民提供解决方案”。

He said politicians had to "move beyond the constitutional questions" and "focus on solutions for people right now".

伯纳姆表示,下放权力“本来就不该止步于苏格兰议会的大门”,因为苏格兰议会于1999年成立。

Burnham said devolution "was never supposed to stop at the doors of the Scottish Parliament" when Holyrood opened in 1999.

他说,下放权力本应是“更深层次事物的开始”,在这种状态下,“社区在自身未来事务中应有更大发言权”。

He said it was meant to be the "start of something deeper" where "communities had more of a say in their own future".

然而,他将苏格兰描述为英国最下放的国家,但同时也是“欧洲最集中的国家之一”。

However, he described Scotland as the most devolved nation in the UK but "one of the most centralised in Europe".

他说:“在我上任的第一周,我曾告诉首相,我想与他合作,将机会惠及苏格兰各地区和城市的社区。”

"During my first week in office, I told the first minister that I wanted to work with him to spread opportunities to communities across Scotland's regions and cities," he said.

“通过唐宁街10号北区,我们正在重塑国家机器,我希望确保苏格兰的地区能够充分参与其中。”

"Through No10 North, we are rewiring the state and I want to make sure regions in Scotland are fully part of this.

“这是我向苏格兰政府提出的提议。只要我们共同努力,我们就能为苏格兰人民实现无限可能。” 首相还呼吁结束苏格兰政府与英国政府之间的“部落政治”。

"This is me making an offer to the Scottish government. With us working together, there is no limit to what we can achieve for the Scottish people." The prime minister also called for an end to "tribal politics" between the Scottish and UK governments.

他说他和斯温尼“在一些事情上达成了一致”,但“不必在所有事情上达成一致”。

He said he and Swinney "agreed on some things" but "didn't have to agree on everything".

斯温尼预计将在周六的SNP大会主题演讲中推动他重新发起的独立运动。

Swinney is expected to promote his renewed push for independence in his keynote speech at the SNP conference on Saturday.

此前,他欢迎伯纳姆告诉议员们,如果存在明确共识且公众舆论发生变化,那么在苏格兰和北爱尔兰都将考虑举行边境公投。

He previously welcomed Burnham telling MPs that a border poll would be considered in both Scotland and Northern Ireland if there was a clear consensus and public opinion had changed.

但伯纳姆后来在格拉斯哥的一次会议上告诉斯温尼,第二次苏格兰独立公投仍然“被禁止”,从而对此提出了反对意见。

But Burnham later pushed back on that by telling Swinney at a meeting in Glasgow that a second Scottish independence referendum remains "off limits".

当被问及在苏格兰更地方化地下放权力是会使独立更可能还是更不可能时,首相说:“我只是觉得我们都必须超越宪法问题。

Asked whether devolving power more locally in Scotland would make independence more or less likely, the prime minister said: "I just feel we all have to move beyond the constitutional questions.

“在我看来,苏格兰人民正像英格兰和其他地方的人民一样,承受着生活成本危机的痛苦,我认为我们的工作是关注实际问题,关注为当下人民提供的解决方案。

"In my view, people in Scotland are suffering from the cost of living crisis, like they are in England and everywhere else, and I think our job is to focus on the practicalities, to focus on solutions for people right now.

“正如我所说的那样,太多时间被浪费在这些戏剧上,它消耗了太多精力。”

"As I said at the end, too much time is wasted on those dramas, it consumes too much energy."