
英国政治辩论在SNP年会后呈现出浓厚的苏格兰色彩,BBC政治编辑克里斯·梅森如是说。
UK political debate has a distinctly Scottish feel after SNP's annual conference, says the BBC's political editor Chris Mason.
克里斯·梅森报道:过去几天,英国政治辩论呈现出浓厚的苏格兰色彩。
By Chris Mason UK political debate has had a distinctly Scottish feel these last few days.
随着苏格兰民族党在阿伯丁郊外的活动综合体举行年度大会,保守党领袖凯米·巴登诺赫一直在佩斯利和爱丁堡活动,而首相则在莫瑟韦尔。
As the Scottish National Party has gathered for its annual conference at the Event Complex on the outskirts of Aberdeen, the Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch has been in Paisley and Edinburgh and the prime minister has been in Motherwell.
苏格兰民族党士气高涨,其活动人士自今年5月该党赢得第五次连续苏格兰议会选举以来首次聚集——尽管获得的席位比2021年少。明年将标志着该党在霍利罗德掌权自治已满20年。
The SNP is buoyant, its activists gathering for the first time since it won, in May, a fifth consecutive Scottish Parliament election, albeit with fewer seats than they won in 2021. Next year will mark the moment the party has been in devolved power at Holyrood for 20 years.
这与两年前苏格兰民族党的处境形成鲜明对比——当时它在2024年大选中遭遇滑坡式失利,工党从其手中夺得36个席位。
It is quite the contrast with where the SNP found itself just two years ago, pulverised by the landslide at the general election in 2024 where Labour gained 36 seats from the SNP.
正如我一年前所写的那样,苏格兰民族党的批评者指出,他们看到的国内记录令人失望,例如在国家医疗服务体系方面以及吸毒者死亡人数方面。
As I wrote a year ago, the SNP's critics point to what they see as a dismal domestic record, on the NHS and the number of deaths among drug addicts, for instance.
苏格兰民族党则反驳称,苏格兰每千人拥有的警察人数多于英格兰和威尔士,且在英国各地区中对每名学生的教育支出最高。
The SNP counter Scotland has more police officers per person than England and Wales and the highest spend per school pupil in the UK.
无论争论如何,5月的结果很明确——苏格兰民族党领袖兼首席部长约翰·斯温尼拥有自己的民意授权。考虑到他上任时党的状况,这并不令人意外,因而大会宣传册 印有他微笑抱着一杯威士忌的照片。
No matter the arguments, the result in May was clear - the SNP leader and First Minister John Swinney has his own mandate. Little wonder, given the state of the party when he took the job, that the conference brochure has a front page photo of a smiling Swinney cradling a glass of whisky.
而且请记住,苏格兰民族党面临的不仅是选举上的惨败,还有最终导致彼得·默雷尔——该党前首席执行官、前首席部长尼古拉·斯特金的疏离丈夫——因贪污党款超过40万英镑而被监禁的令人震惊的细节。
And remember it wasn't just an electoral pummelling the SNP was dealing with, but the jaw dropping details which culminated in the jailing of Peter Murrell, the party's former chief executive - and estranged husband of the former First Minister Nicola Sturgeon - for embezzling more than £400,000 from the party.
斯温尼如今展望未来,在将这些过去的事情留在身后的同时,还需应对唐宁街的新首相。
Swinney now looks ahead to a parliamentary term with all that behind them and a new prime minister to deal with in Downing Street.
伯恩汉姆和斯温尼对威斯敏斯特的诊断一致,认为其未能履行职责,而政治权力比以往任何时候都更适合由更接近人民的地方来管理。
Burnham and Swinney share a diagnosis that Westminster has failed to deliver and political power is better administered closer to people than it ever has been.
但关键的是,首相认为围绕苏格兰独立的持续质疑所带来的“戏剧性”是一种干扰。
But, crucially, the prime minister sees the "drama" of the constant questions around Scottish independence as a distraction.
对斯温尼而言,独立一直是他毕生的政治目标,并且至今仍是如此。本周我们得以一窥这两个人之间的动态可能如何发展。
For Swinney, independence has been and remains his lifelong political goal. We have had a glimpse this week as to how that dynamic between the two men may play out.
伯恩汉姆的批评者,包括苏格兰民族党,认为这位前曼彻斯特市长的下放权力倾向带有明显的英格兰色彩。首相在访问新学院兰开夏郡期间试图对此进行反驳。
Burnham's critics, including the SNP, have seen this former Mancunian mayor's devolutionary instincts as having a distinctly English flavour. The prime minister, on his trip to New College Lanarkshire, sought to counter that.
“我确实希望这里每个邮编区都能实现良好增长,英国其他地区也是如此,我想与首席部长合作来实现这一点。我们在所有事情上可能不会达成一致,但我们可以在某些事情上达成共识,”他说。
"I do want a good growth in every postcode here, and in the rest of the UK, and I want to work with the first minister to deliver it. We won't agree on everything, but we can agree on something," he said.
“我希望我们能够共同设计一种新模式,实现苏格兰范围内的区域经济赋权,让控制权掌握在当地人民手中。”伯恩汉姆提出将地方化就业支持的权力下放,目前这些权力由工作与养老金部掌握。
"I want us to design a new model together of regional economic empowerment across Scotland, one that puts control in the hands of local people." Burnham has offered to devolve powers on localised employment support, currently held by the Department of Work and Pensions.
他和苏格兰事务大臣道格拉斯·亚历山大均表示,苏格兰是“欧洲最集中的国家之一”,这一说法遭到斯温尼的明确驳斥。
Both he and the Secretary of State for Scotland, Douglas Alexander, said Scotland was "one of the most centralised nations in Europe", an assertion flatly rejected by Swinney.

苏格兰首席部长表示,他希望“为地区层面的技能、经济机遇和规划提供更多机会”,他的团队承认这一愿景包括与英格兰部分地区所见的区域联合当局存在重叠,但不包括市长。
Scotland's first minister has said he wants "much more opportunity for a regional dimension to take forward skills, economic opportunity and planning" and his team acknowledge this vision includes overlaps with the regional combined authorities seen in parts of England, albeit without mayors.
鉴于工党与苏格兰民族党之间存在的竞争和坚韧,观察在首相演讲之后事态将如何发展,将颇具趣味。
It will be intriguing to observe, given the rivalry and grit that exists between Labour and the SNP, how things develop beyond the prime minister's speech.
在阿伯丁,活动人士利用首相对脱欧的反思来论证:如果他可以重新审视2016年关于欧盟的公投结果,那么苏格兰人也应能重新审视2014年关于独立的公投。
Here in Aberdeen, activists have seized upon the prime minister's reflections on Brexit to argue that if he can revisit the outcome of the referendum in 2016 on the European Union, Scots should be able to revisit the one in 2014 on independence.
上个月,下议院曾出现苏格兰民族党议员克里斯·劳与安迪·伯纳姆之间的一次交流,伯纳姆曾表示,如果民意显示出需求,可以举行另一次苏格兰独立公投,此事也被多次提及。
There have been plenty of mentions too of an exchange in the Commons last month between SNP MP Chris Law and Andy Burnham, when Burnham suggested another Scottish independence referendum could be held, if public opinion showed demand for one.
苏格兰民族党人士认为——或许是希望——这代表了首相的真实观点。
SNP folk think - perhaps hope - this represents the prime minister's authentic view.
他和唐宁街一直试图压制这一想法,他表示自己希望“继续前进”,摆脱关于苏格兰独立的争论。
He and Downing Street have seen sought to squash this idea and he said he wanted to "move on" from a debate about Scottish independence.
私下里,苏格兰民族党的高级人物承认,授权举行另一次公投的权力在于西敏寺和英国政府,而英国政府已明确表示反对。因此,他们的重点是通过他们选择的治理方式,稳步建立独立的论据。
Privately, senior SNP figures accept the authority to sanction another referendum lies with Westminster and the UK government says no. So, their focus is seeking to steadily build the case for independence in how they choose to govern.
在党内,一个名为“独立”的新小组应运而生——正如你所猜测的那样。
Within the party, a new group called, you guessed it, "Independence" has been set up.
在其成立仪式上,苏格兰民族党前政策召集人托尼·朱利亚诺认为:“国家不是通过等待许可而获得独立的。它们是在支持变得不可阻挡、以及为变革建立全国共识时实现独立的。”
Speaking at its launch event, the SNP's former Policy Convener Toni Giugliano argued that "countries don't become independent by waiting for permission. They do so when support becomes unstoppable and when a national consensus for change is built".
他还认为,必须现在就回答关于一个独立的苏格兰将会是什么样子、感觉如何的根本性问题——比如将使用什么货币,以及国家养老金将如何运作。这些是长期问题。
Furthermore, he argued, fundamental questions about what an independent Scotland would look and feel like must be answered now - such as the currency that would be used and how the state pension would work. These are the long term questions.
目前,争夺更多聚焦于短期,因为苏格兰民族党正在考虑首相可能何时召开大选。
For now, the tussle is more short term, as the SNP ponders when the prime minister might call a general election.
乘着最近在苏格兰议会(Holyrood)的胜利之风,该党感受到工党在两年前从他们手中夺走的一大批选席中的脆弱性。
Buoyed by its recent victory at Holyrood, the party senses Labour vulnerability in the swathe of seats Labour took from them two years ago.