
独家:负责欧洲政策的美国众议院最高级别共和党人将法国城市的骚乱归咎于大规模移民,并警告美国可能很快也会步其后尘。
EXCLUSIVE: The top House Republican overseeing Europe policy is blaming the riots roiling French cities on mass migration, and warning the U.S. could soon follow suit.
得克萨斯州共和党众议员基思·塞尔夫告诉福克斯新闻数字版,他对法国各地的暴力示威并不感到意外,而且认为这早有预兆。
Rep. Keith Self, R-Texas, told Fox News Digital that he was not surprised by the violent demonstrations across France — and moreover, argued they were a long time coming.
“他们多年来一直任由这种事情发生,所以这是自食其果,”塞尔夫说。“我们也正在努力应对大规模移民带来的后果,就像法国多年前本应做的那样。这就是我说这是给美国的教训。坦率地说,我们正在法国和英国看到美国的未来。”塞尔夫是众议院外交事务委员会欧洲小组委员会主席。他也是与得克萨斯州共和党众议员奇普·罗伊共同创办“美国反伊斯兰法党团”的成员。
"They've been allowing this to happen for years and years, so they are reaping what they sowed," Self said. "We're also trying to get a handle on our mass migration consequences, just like France should have done years ago. That's why I say this is a lesson to America. We are watching the future of America in France and the U.K., frankly." Self is the chairman of the Subcommittee on Europe in the House Foreign Affairs Committee. He is also a co-founder alongside Rep. Chip Roy, R-Texas, of the Sharia-Free America Caucus.
民主党人批评该党团具有伊斯兰恐惧症,并遭到包括美国穆斯林组织理事会在内的团体谴责。
Democrats have criticized the group as Islamophobic, and it's been condemned by groups like the U.S. Council of Muslim Organizations.
但塞尔夫坚持自己的观点,认为法国不断增长的穆斯林人口至少部分要为骚乱负责。
But Self doubled down on his beliefs, suggesting France's growing Muslim population is at least partially responsible for the riots.
“他们现在,呃,法国有7%的人口是穆斯林?你知道,当你达到这个比例——并且在一些大城市高度集中时——这就达到了大家都在谈论的临界点,”他辩称。
"They've got, what, 7% now are Muslims in France? And, you know, when you reach that percentage — and very concentrated in some large cities — that gives you the tipping point that everybody talks about," he argued.
根据该国国家统计和经济研究所的数据,在18至59岁的人口中,伊斯兰教是法国本土仅次于天主教的第二大宗教。
Islam is the second-most popular religion in metropolitan France among people aged 18 to 59 after Catholicism, according to the country's National Institute of Statistics and Economic Studies.
他后来说:“当你认为每个人在文化和道德上都等同时,你会得到这样的结果。事实并非如此。到了某个时候,你必须做出决定:我们是要捍卫法国的基督教传统,还是不?”这发生在法国多天暴力抗议和骚乱之后,商店被洗劫,数百年历史的建筑被烧毁和亵渎。
He said later: "This is what you get when you think that everyone is culturally and morally equivalent. They're not. And at some point, you have got to make the decision: Are we going to defend a Christian heritage in France, or are we not?" It comes after multiple days of violent protests and riots across France that have seen stores looted and centuries-old buildings burned and desecrated.

法国的世俗中间派政府指责极左翼团体加剧了因生活成本高昂、教育费用昂贵等问题而产生的紧张局势。
France's secular centrist government has blamed far-left groups for exacerbating tension over high living costs and expensive education, among other issues.
塞尔夫称法国正处于公开的“内战”之中,并表示军队应该介入,但他对军队是否会介入持悲观态度。
Self argued France was in an open "civil war" and said its military should step in, but was pessimistic that it would.
他说:“现在的破坏太严重了,我们要看看他们是否有胆量派遣军队。但如果他们不这么做,那么他们在大城市里就非常接近失去自己的文化了。”
"There's too much destruction now, so we'll see if they've got the gumption to send in the military. But if they don't, then they're very close to losing their culture in the large cities," he said.
当被问及这场动荡是否应该迫使法国总统埃马纽埃尔·马克龙下台时,塞尔夫说:“这取决于马克龙。我认为这对法国可能是有益的。”但他坚持认为,混乱不应演变成对美法关系的反弹——事实上,塞尔夫说,美国应该在情报收集方面帮助法国应对抗议活动。
Asked if the turmoil should force French President Emmanuel Macron to step down, Self said, "That's up to Macron. I think it would probably be beneficial to France." But he maintained the chaos should not turn into a backlash against the U.S.-France relationship — in fact, Self said, the U.S. ought to help France with intelligence-gathering about the protests.
塞尔夫说:“我认为我们大概应该提供我们能提供的任何帮助,面部识别,无论什么。”他澄清说,他的意思不是派遣美国人亲自前往。“法国仍然是一个非常重要、非常大的盟友和伙伴。所以我们需要做我们能做的,理解你知道,特朗普总统曾试图让他们加大力度、做得更多。但这不是抛弃法国的时候。”
"I think we probably ought to offer them what help we could, facial identification, whatever," Self said, clarifying that he did not mean sending Americans in person. "France is still a very important, very large ally and partner. So we need to do what we can, understanding that, you know, President Trump has tried to get them to step up and do more. But this is not the time to abandon France." More than 500,000 people took to the streets in various cities and towns across France this weekend. French authorities said 1,800 people were arrested nationwide, with over 800 of those arrested in the capital city of Paris alone.

本周末,超过50万人在法国各地的城市和城镇走上街头。法国当局称,全国共有1800人被捕,仅巴黎市就有800多人被捕。
In addition to photos and videos of French heritage sites in flames, images showing some protesters carrying Algerian, Palestinian and Moroccan flags have led figures on the right to blame France's immigration policies.
除了法国遗产遗址燃烧的照片和视频外,一些抗议者手持阿尔及利亚、巴勒斯坦和摩洛哥国旗的图片,导致右翼人士指责法国的移民政策。巴黎卢浮宫博物馆周一宣布,因抗议活动将“暂时”闭馆。
The Louvre Museum in Paris announced Monday that it would be closed "for the time being" due to the protests.