
民主党参议员候选人詹姆斯·塔拉里科在一次新采访中,将他过去的一些争议性言论归咎于共和党的极端主义,其中包括断言上帝是“非二元性别”以及存在六种生物学性别,并辩称这些并非他竞选公职要讨论的议题。
Democratic Senate candidate James Talarico blamed Republican extremism for prompting some of his past controversial remarks during a new interview, including assertions that God is "nonbinary" and that there are six biological sexes, arguing that those weren't issues he ran for office to discuss.
塔拉里科表示,文化战争议题在2021年得克萨斯州立法会变得更加突出,并暗示共和党应对这些话题受到的关注度增加负责。2021年,塔拉里科反对一项禁止男性参加女子体育比赛的法案,并在得克萨斯州奥斯汀的众议院会议厅上宣称“上帝是非二元性别”。此外,在2021年得克萨斯州众议院公共教育委员会的听证会上,他声称:“现代科学显然承认生物学性别不止两种;事实上,有六种。”
Talarico said that culture war issues became more prominent in the 2021 Texas state legislature and suggested Republicans were responsible for the increased attention to those topics. Talarico, in 2021, opposed a bill to ban men from women’s sports and claimed that "God is non-binary" while on the Austin, Texas, House floor. Additionally, in a Texas House Committee on Public Education hearing in 2021, he stated, "Modern science obviously recognizes that there are many more than two biological sexes; in fact, there are six." Talarico, who is running against Republican Ken Paxton in the state's closely watched U.S. Senate race, spoke to The New York Times' Michael Barbaro on the paper's "The Daily" podcast Tuesday.
塔拉里科正在该州备受关注的联邦参议员竞选中对决共和党人肯·帕克斯顿,他在周二接受了《纽约时报》迈克尔·巴巴罗在该报“每日新闻”播客上的采访。被问及那些言论时,他说他当时感到有责任反击他所描述的共和党极端主义。
He said he felt compelled to fight what he described as Republican extremism at the time when asked about the comments. "I was put in a position where I had to fight back against that extremism. So, you mentioned some of my comments on gender or on issues affecting trans people. It's not like I ran for the legislature to talk about these things.
“我被置于一个必须反击那种极端主义的位置。所以,你提到了我关于性别或影响跨性别者议题的一些言论。我竞选立法机构并不是为了谈论这些事情。再说一遍,如果你回顾我的第一个会期,我想谈论的是公共教育,这才是我最初参选的原因,”他指着自己竞选时关注的其他议题说道。
Again, if you go back to my first session, I wanted to talk about public education, which is why I ran in the first place," he said, pointing to other issues on which he ran. "It's kind of ironic that they're clipping these things to make it sound like I'm the one who was talking about this when, in reality, it was the Republican extremists at the Capitol who were obsessed with talking about trans issues, obsessed with talking about people's private parts.
“颇具讽刺意味的是,他们剪辑这些片段,让人听起来好像是我在谈论这些事,而实际上,是州议会大厦里的共和党极端分子痴迷于谈论跨性别议题,痴迷于谈论人们的隐私部位。那不是我,是他们变了,”他说。
That wasn't me, that was them that changed," he said. Talarico was asked whether some Democratic positions on cultural issues around 2020 had gone too far. The Democratic Senate candidate said that at the national level, the party may have gone too far.

塔拉里科被问及2020年前后民主党在文化议题上的某些立场是否走得太远。
But at the state level, specifically in Texas, he believed certain bills were targeting and harming his constituents.
这位民主党参议员候选人表示,在全国层面,该党可能走得太远了。但在州层面,特别是在得克萨斯州,他认为某些法案正在针对并伤害他的选民。他指出了得克萨斯州的堕胎禁令以及影响LGBTQ群体的立法。
He pointed to Texas' abortion ban and legislation affecting the LGBTQ community. "These bills targeting LGBTQ people have real ramifications in our state, especially when they're written to be overly broad," he said. "I'm all for if we want to figure out when it's appropriate for a trans athlete to play in a sport.
“这些针对LGBTQ人群的法案在我们州有着实际影响,尤其是当它们被写得过于宽泛时,”他说。“如果我们想弄清楚跨性别运动员在何种情况下参加体育比赛是合适的,我完全支持。那是我们应该进行的政策讨论,也是我们应该解决的问题。”
That's a policy discussion that we should have and an issue we should solve." "But the bill that they were trying to pass, the bill they ultimately did pass, was a blanket ban in all cases," he continued. "It treated tee-ball the same as varsity baseball. And it's because their goal was to score political points off of the backs of a very small, vulnerable group of people in our state.
“但他们试图通过、最终也确实通过的那个法案,是一项全面禁止令,适用于所有情况,”他继续说道。“它把垒球(tee-ball)和校队棒球(varsity baseball)一视同仁。这是因为他们的目标是利用我们州极少数、弱势群体的利益来攫取政治资本。因此,我的价值观没有改变,但由于共和党极端主义的抬头,我被置于了捍卫选民的位置上。”巴巴罗询问塔拉里科是否认同众议员亚历山德拉·奥卡西奥-科尔特斯(民主党-纽约州)的观点,即所谓的“Woke One”在个人层面上是“疯狂的”。
And so, you know, my values haven't changed, but I was put in a position because of the rise in Republican extremism to defend my constituents." Barbaro asked Talarico if he subscribed to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., and her assertion that so-called "Woke One" was "crazy" at a personal level. Talarico said he regretted not articulating his position in a "more straightforward way," but had no regrets about defending his constituents. "So, there's a lot that is said and, when you pull out maybe the most inarticulate of those things to make an attack ad. You know, I certainly regret not articulating my position more clearly, in a more straightforward way to say what I actually mean. And that's going to be true, you know, probably for my entire time in public service. I'm not a perfect person.

塔拉里科表示,他后悔没有用“更直接的方式”阐述自己的立场,但为捍卫选民而无悔。
None of us are. And so I'm going to always keep trying to improve how I talk about things so that I'm getting my point across," he said.
“说了很多话,当你把其中可能最不得体、最不清晰的部分抽出来制作攻击性广告时。我当然后悔没有更清晰、更直接地阐述我的立场,说出我真正的意思。这大概贯穿我整个公共服务生涯。我不是完美的人,我们都不是。所以我将永远努力改进我的表达方式,以便准确传达我的观点,”他说。
Talarico added, "I wasn't making a large point about American politics or the Democratic Party. I'll leave those to the pundits and the commentators. All I was trying to say is that I've said things imperfectly, and I'm going to keep working on trying to communicate more clearly and effectively."
塔拉里科补充道:“我并非想对美国政治或民主党提出什么重大观点。那些留给评论员和时事评论家去讨论吧。我只是想说,我曾有过表达不当之处,我将继续努力,试图更清晰、更有效地进行沟通。”
Inez Stepman, senior policy and legal analyst at Independent Women, criticized Talarico's remarks. "The left is always pulling a bait and switch with cultural issues. They advanced policies that placed males on girls’ sports teams, in locker rooms, in women’s prisons, and tried to push anyone who objected to that insanity out of public life.

“独立女性”组织的高级政策与法律分析师伊内兹·斯泰普曼批评了塔拉里科的言论。
Now, they say none of this ever existed or isn’t important. But they don’t change their policy or votes.
“左派总是在文化议题上玩‘调包计’。他们推行政策,让男性进入女子运动队、更衣室、女子监狱,并试图将任何反对这种疯狂做法的人赶出公共生活。现在,他们却说这些事情从未存在过,或者不重要。但他们并未改变政策或投票立场。联邦层面没有一位民主党人投票支持一项将男性排除在女子体育之外的法案。如果他们不想谈论这些议题,完全可以通过停止他们的运动——包括通过法律法规——来强迫我们接受男性进入女性空间,从而将这些问题抛在脑后。但他们不会那么做,他们只是希望我们停止谈论他们的理念和政策对女性和女童造成的后果,”斯泰普曼在给福克斯新闻数字频道的声明中表示。
Not a single Democrat on the federal level voted for a bill to keep men out of women’s sports. If they don’t want to talk about these issues, they could easily put them behind us by ceasing their campaign, including passing laws and regulations, that force us to accept men in women’s spaces. But they won’t do that, they merely want us to stop talking about the consequences of their ideas and policies on women and girls," Stepman told Fox News Digital in a statement.
塔拉里科最近在参加一场“禧年”风格的市政厅会议时,因其过往关于文化议题的言论遭到质询,会议中选民与他一对一交锋。塔拉里科遇到了一位来自德克萨斯州的基督徒,对方就他的过往言论向他施压。
Talarico was recently confronted on some of his comments regarding cultural issues while participating in a "Jubilee"-style town hall, during which voters confronted him one-on-one. Talarico met with a fellow Christian from Texas who pressed him on his past statements. "You've said some concerning things in the past kind of related to faith and social issues.
“你过去说过一些令人担忧的言论,涉及信仰和社会议题。比如上帝是非二元性别的,质疑到底有多少种性别,以及你引用《圣经》为堕胎辩护,”小企业主萨拉·加德纳对塔拉里科说道。
Things such as God is nonbinary, questions about how many genders there really are and your justifications using the Bible for abortion," Sarah Gardner, a small business owner, said to Talarico. While explaining some of his comments, he drew a parallel to his own interpretation of Scripture to Charlie Kirk.
在解释自己的部分言论时,他将自己对《圣经》的解读与查理·柯克的观点进行了类比。
"The first comment about God not being defined by gender, when I said that I was being provocative. And I want to admit that and come clean about that.
“关于上帝不被性别定义的第一番评论,我说那番话是为了挑衅。我想承认这一点,并坦诚相告。但我认为我所说的在神学上其实并无争议。我们无法用人类的范畴来定义上帝这一观点,不只是我说过,已故的查理·柯克说过,已故的教皇本笃也说过。所以,是的,我确实那样做了,也许方式令人讨厌,我可以承认这一点,”他说。帕克斯顿的竞选团队未立即回复福克斯新闻数字频道的置评请求。
But I think what I was saying is actually not controversial theologically. The idea that we can't define God using human categories, not only did I say that, but the late Charlie Kirk said that, the late Pope Benedict said that. And so, yes, I was doing it, maybe in an annoying way, I can admit that," he said. Paxton's campaign did not immediately return Fox News Digital's request for comment.