“干脆说‘我去了佩珀代因法学院，然后选择了另一条职业道路’不就行了吗？”特朗普的朋友塞恩·汉尼蒂这样追问她。评论员们表示，他们从未见过这位保守派福克斯新闻主播如此严厉地质问一位共和党人。想要将文章加入书签，成为独立成员。想收藏您喜欢的文章和故事以供以后阅读或参考？立即开通独立会员。立即加入 已经是会员？
“Why not just say, ‘I went to Pepperdine Law School and then took a different career path’” the Trump pal pressed her. Commentators remarked that they had never seen the conservative Fox News host push a Republican so hard Become an Independent member to bookmark this article Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Start your Independent Membership today. Join today Already a member?
白宫新闻秘书凯蒂·扎卡里亚在特朗普的朋友、福克斯新闻主播塞恩·汉尼蒂那里接受了一次意外的严厉质询，原因是她自称是律师，尽管她从未通过律师资格考试。这与这位右翼评论员平时对特朗普官员温和有加的质询方式形成了鲜明对比。
White House press secretary Katie Zacharia got an unexpected grilling from Trump-pal Fox News anchor Sean Hannity about why she called herself an attorney when she never passed the bar exam, in a departure from the right-wing pundit’s usual kid-gloves questioning of Trump officials.
此次采访让批评者感到震惊，并表示他们从未见过这位保守派主播如此严厉地质问一位共和党人，更不用说特朗普白宫官员了，就在扎卡里亚出现在汉尼蒂周四晚上的节目之后。
The interview left critics stunned and saying they had never seen the conservative presenter press a Republican, let alone a Trump White House official, so hard after Zacharia appeared on Hannity’s Thursday night show.
“汉尼蒂正在逼近致命一击，”记者亚伦·鲁帕尔在X上观察到，而《保守派》的威尔·索默评论道：“这是我见过塞恩·汉尼蒂对共和党人进行的最艰难的采访。”扎卡里亚在获得新闻秘书职位之前曾自称为律师，她在当天早些时候向另一个亲右翼的播客透露自己从未通过律师资格考试，随后接受了汉尼蒂的采访。
“Hannity is moving in for the kill,” observed journalist Aaron Rupar on X, while The Bulwark’s Will Sommer commented, “This is the toughest interview I've ever seen Sean Hannity give to a Republican.”Zacharia, who touted herself as an attorney before landing the press secretary gig, was interviewed by Hannity after admitting she never passed the bar, which she revealed to another right-wing-friendly podcast earlier that day.
汉尼蒂首先指出扎卡里亚在周二的白宫新闻发布会“广受批评”，该发布会仅持续了14分钟，她仅回答了三个问题。扎卡里亚解释说，她是在几天前被提供这个职位的。
Hannity began by calling out Zacharia’s “widely panned” White House press briefing on Tuesday, which only lasted 14 minutes and in which she only took three questions. Zacharia explained that she was offered the role days before.
“我觉得我真的挺身而出，在准备时间非常有限的情况下主持了这次新闻发布会，肖恩，”她说。“考虑到我上岗可能还不到八小时，早上才拿到简报手册，我觉得我已经尽了最大努力，肖恩，为那天的美国人民服务。”汉尼蒂随后聚焦于扎卡里亚多次被描述为“律师”的情况，引用了《Popular Information》记者贾德·莱古姆的分析，指出自2025年3月以来，她在福克斯新闻的18次露面中一直被这样称呼。
“What I feel is I really stepped up and to the plate to do the press conference, Sean, with very little prep time,” she said. “Given the fact that I've been on the job less than maybe eight hours and had a briefing book in the morning, I feel like I did my very best, Sean, to deliver for the American people that day.”Hannity then homed in on how Zacharia has repeatedly been described as a “lawyer,” citing analysis by Popular Information journalist Judd Legum that she has been referred to as such during 18 appearances on Fox News since March 2025.
“你把它称为‘阴谋论’，与她是否是律师这一问题相关，”汉尼蒂说。“现在，你确实去过佩珀代因。佩珀代因是一所好学校 — — 毫无疑问。你参加了律师资格考试，但你没有通过。对吗？”福克斯主持人随后追问扎卡里亚是否第二次参加了律师资格考试，但新闻秘书开始漫谈结婚和搬到中国的事情。
“You called it a ‘conspiracy theory’ as it related to the issue of being a lawyer,” Hannity said. “Now, you did go to Pepperdine. Pepperdine is a good school — no doubt about it. You took the bar exam, but you didn’t pass the bar exam. Correct?”The Fox host then pressed Zacharia on whether she took the bar a second time but the press secretary began to ramble about getting married and moving to China.
“好的，但我想具体问你 — — 我知道这部分故事，你确实都做了 — — 但你是否曾第二次或第三次参加律师资格考试？”汉尼蒂问道。“我没有，肖恩，”扎卡里亚承认。
“OK, but I wanna ask you specifically — I know that part of the story, and you did do all of that — but did you ever take the bar exam a second time or a third time?”Hannity asked. “I did not, Sean,” Zacharia conceded.
汉尼蒂接着问她：“为什么不直接说，‘我去了佩珀代因法学院，然后选择了另一条职业道路’？为什么要陷入这种冗长的争论，关于律师和律师（attorney）之间的区别？”扎卡里亚表示，她从未提供过法律建议，并声称她曾咨询法律专业人士，以确定自己是否可以被称为律师，当她……这一交流令多年来一直观察汉尼蒂的评论员感到震惊，有人猜测，他与唐纳德·特朗普总统的亲密关系可能在扎卡里亚的严厉质询中起到了作用。
Hannity then asked her, “Why not just say, ‘I went to Pepperdine Law School and then took a different career path’? Why get into this long drawn-out thing about the difference between a lawyer and an attorney?”Zacharia said that she never provided legal advice and claimed she had consulted with legal professionals as to whether she could be labeled a lawyer when she The exchange was shocking to commentators who have observed Hannity over the years, with some speculating that his proximity to President Donald Trump had a hand in Zacharia’s grilling.
“除非他知道这是特朗普总统和其他人所接受或希望的，否则很难想象肖恩会对扎卡里亚采取这样的语气和方式，”记者亚沙尔·阿里说。
“It is very difficult to imagine Sean taking this tone and approach with Zacharia unless he knew it’s what President Trump and others would be ok with or wanted,” said journalist Yashar Ali.
“汉尼蒂知道特朗普会看他的节目，”塞马福的马克斯·塔尼说。“他决定向凯蒂·扎卡里亚提出真实的问题，而不是仅仅为她辩护或批评媒体，这似乎相当值得注意。”民主党全国委员会影响力总监马特·雷因在X平台的一篇帖子中说，扎卡里亚被“搞砸”了。“我认为我从未见过汉尼蒂如此追问一位共和党人，更不用说白宫工作人员了，”他说。白宫在一波批评声中团结起来支持扎卡里亚。
“Hannity knows Trump watches his show,” Semafor’s Max Tani said. “His decision to ask Katie Zacharia real questions instead of just defending her or criticizing the media seems pretty notable.”Matt Rein, an influencer director at the Democratic National Committee, said that Zacharia was “cooked” in post on X. “I don't think I have ever seen Hannity press a Republican, let alone a White House staffer, like this,” he said. The White House has rallied to support Zacharia amid a wave of criticism.
“她具备独特的资历和过人的智慧，能够帮助美国人民了解特朗普总统及其政府所做的所有伟大事情，她将在新闻秘书一职上做出令人惊叹的工作，”白宫传播主管史蒂文· chung在一份声明中表示。
“She is uniquely qualified and whip smart to help inform the American people about all the great things President Trump and his Administration have been doing, and she will do an incredible job as Press Secretary,” White House communications director Steven Cheung said in a statement.
白宫官方快速反应账号经常发布福克斯新闻的片段，以宣传特朗普政府，包括汉尼蒂的节目，但值得注意的是，该账号并未分享任何来自扎卡里亚采访的内容。
The White House official rapid response account, which often posts clips from Fox News touting the Trump administration, including Hannity’s, notably did not share any from Zacharia’s interview.
扎卡里亚周四参加了右翼影响者杰克·波索比克的播客，在这期间她声称自己未通过的律师资格考试结果“在某种程度上无关紧要”。“我知道我不需要在中国参加律师考试，我们不久之后就离开了，”她声称。“搬到中国后，我认为我并没有真的把律师考试结果放在心上，也没有认为那是我需要专注的事情，我被一家中国律师事务所的国际业务部门提供了一份工作。”“中国没有律师考试。我凭借我的法律学位这一足够的资历，就能够从事这项工作，”她补充道。
Zacharia went on the right-wing influencer Jack Posobiec’s podcast Thursday, where she claimed the results of her failed bar exam were “somewhat inconsequential.”“I knew I wouldn’t need the bar in China, and we left shortly thereafter,” she claimed. “And after moving to China, I think, I didn’t really think much of the bar results or consider that something that I needed to focus on, and I was offered a job at an international practice division of a Chinese law firm.”“There’s no Chinese bar. I had enough credentials, which was my law degree, to be able to do this practice,” she added.
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