
美国司法部要求加利福尼亚州采取前所未有的步骤,将与司法部称“很可能”是非公民的2万名选民相关的选票隔离开来。但地方官员的初步审查表明,该名单“不可靠”,且名单上一些人在记录中表明他们出生在美国,因此可能是公民。
The Department of Justice is demanding California take the unprecedented step of segregating ballots associated with 20,000 people the department says are "likely" noncitizens. But an initial review by local officials suggests the list is "unreliable" and that some people on it had indicated in records they were born in the U.S. and therefore may be citizens.
这些新细节来自加利福尼亚州和地方官员周二提交的法庭文件,旨在回应联邦政府提起的诉讼,后者试图强制该州在选票计数前调查这数千人。该州表示,在如此临近选举之际做司法部要求的事不可行,且可能违反联邦和州选举法律。
The new details come from court filings submitted Tuesday by the state of California and local officials, in response to a lawsuit filed by the federal government attempting to compel the state to investigate the thousands of people before their votes are counted. The state says doing what the DOJ requests would be unfeasible this close to the election and would likely break federal and state election laws.
该州在周二的文件中写道:“充其量,这场诉讼是一场鲁莽的政治噱头;最坏的情况是,它威胁要剥夺数千名加利福尼亚人在本次选举中的投票权。” 这场风波始于上周,当时司法部向洛杉矶县交付了一个包含约2万人名单的U盘,国土安全部调查人员称这些人是“很可能的非公民”,并在加利福尼亚州某处登记投票。
"At best, this litigation is a reckless political stunt," the state wrote in Tuesday's filing. "At worst, it threatens to disenfranchise thousands of Californians this election." The saga began in earnest last week when the Justice Department delivered a thumb drive to Los Angeles County that contained the list of roughly 20,000 people who investigators at the Department of Homeland Security say are "likely noncitizens" and registered to vote somewhere in California.
起初,县官员拒绝打开该名单,理由是将来源不明的U盘插入政府计算机存在安全威胁。第二天,司法部通过电子邮件发送了一份包含相同名单的电子表格。
Initially, county officials declined to open the list, citing the security threat of inserting a thumb drive of unknown origin into a government computer. The next day, the DOJ emailed a spreadsheet with the same list.
根据洛杉矶县选民登记官迪安·洛根周二单独提交的法庭文件,这2万个名字中,只有7035个在洛杉矶县有地址,且部分为重复条目。
Out of the 20,000 names on the list, only 7,035 had addresses in Los Angeles County and some were duplicates, according to a separate Tuesday court filing by Los Angeles County Registrar Dean Logan.
在提交法庭的声明中,洛杉矶县官员写道,他们抽取了200人作为样本,以了解联邦政府数据的可靠性如何。
In declarations to the court, Los Angeles County officials wrote that they took a sample of 200 people to get a sense of how reliable the federal government's data might be.
“审查尚属初步,质量控制仍在继续,但结果显示‘十月名单’不可靠,”洛杉矶县助理登记官莫妮卡·弗洛雷斯写道。
"The review is preliminary and quality control is continuing, but it indicates that the October List is unreliable," wrote Monica Flores, Los Angeles County Assistant Registrar-Recorder.
弗洛雷斯写道,在出生地“有意义地被记录”的选民中,“38.9% 表明他们出生于美国,这是公民身份的有力证据”。目前不清楚这总共涉及多少人,也不清楚具体是哪些记录列出了出生地。美国国家公共电台已联系洛杉矶县书记官办公室,就法庭文件中列出的数字寻求澄清,但截至周二晚间尚未收到回复。
Of the voters where birthplace was "meaningfully reported," Flores wrote, "38.9% indicate that they were born in the United States, which is strong evidence of citizenship." It's unclear how many people that is in total or the specifics of which records listed place of birth. NPR has reached out to the LA county clerk's office for clarity on the numbers listed in the court filings but by Tuesday evening had not yet received a response.
加利福尼亚州州务卿网站在人们进行在线选民登记时要求填写“出生地”,尽管该栏位并非强制填写。
The California Secretary of State's website asks for "place of birth" when people to vote online, although the field is not mandatory.
除极少数例外情况外,任何出生在美国的人都会自动获得公民身份。
Except for extremely narrow exceptions, anyone born in the U.S. automatically receives citizenship.
在县工作人员审查的 200 条记录中,有 112 条与登记已被注销或处于非活跃状态的人员相关。该文件还称,抽样人员中约 70% 没有投票记录。
Of the 200 records the county staff reviewed, 112 were associated with people whose registrations are canceled or inactive. The filing also said around 70% of the people sampled had no voting history.
特朗普政府总体上为其寻找非公民选民的方法进行了辩护,但从未完全公开解释过该方法。联邦官员(包括特朗普总统)最近就非公民投票问题发布的其他数据,在其他案例中已被证明不准确。
The Trump administration has generally defended its methodology for finding noncitizen voters, without fully ever publicly explaining it. Other numbers federal officials, including President Trump, have recently released on the issue of noncitizen voting have been shown to be inaccurate in other cases.
代理副司法部长特伦特·麦科特在周一的新闻发布会上承认,联邦政府那份包含2万个名字的名单可能存在一些错误。“名单上可能有些人最终证明是公民,我们不是完美的,”麦科特说。“这就是为什么我们要求加利福尼亚州与我们合作。”
Acting Deputy Attorney General Trent McCotter acknowledged there could be some errors in the federal government's list of 20,000 names in a Monday press conference. "There may be some names on there who it turns out ultimately are citizens, we're not perfect," McCotter said. "And that's why we've asked California to cooperate with us."
针对洛杉矶县最初分析的提问,司法部副新闻秘书基尔斯滕·佩尔斯在一份声明中说:“加利福尼亚州不能协助违反联邦法。”声明继续称,“我们通知加利福尼亚州,非公民很可能已登记投票,并要求该州独立核实我们提供的名单上人员所投选票的公民身份。该州拒绝这样做。联邦法不允许这种故意视而不见。”周一,司法部还对提供给该州名单上的28人提出刑事指控。但即使在这些案件中,似乎也有些被指控者可能是在不理解这属于违法的情况下登记的。
In response to questions about LA County's initial analysis, DOJ deputy press secretary Kiersten Pels said in a statement, "California cannot facilitate the violation of federal law." The statement continued, "We notified California that noncitizens are likely registered to vote, and we asked the state to independently verify the citizenship of any ballots cast by people on a list that we provided. It refused to do so. Federal law doesn't permit this willful blindness." On Monday, the DOJ also announced criminal charges against 28 people on the list provided to the state. But even in those cases, it seems some of those charged may have registered without understanding it was illegal.
卡姆莱什·沙阿(Kamlesh Shah,音译),68岁,告诉萨克拉门托电视台KCRA 3,他以为自己能投票是因为持有Real ID(真实身份证)。
Kamlesh Shah, 68, told Sacramento TV station KCRA 3 he thought he was able to vote because he had a Real ID.
“我感到非常沮丧,非常焦虑。我有残疾。我的心脏有很多问题,我的病情,这会给我带来更大的压力,”沙阿告诉KCRA 3。“我非常难过。我正试图找律师,希望能撤销指控。”周一被指控的所有28人都是合法永久居民,也就是绿卡持有者。研究表明,在非公民投票的罕见案例中,往往是绿卡持有者误解规则,而非故意欺诈。
"I'm feeling very depressed, very full of anxiety. I'm disabled. I've got so much problems in my heart, my condition, so it's going to give me more stress," Shah told KCRA 3. "I'm very upset. I'm trying to get an attorney, hopefully I can have the charges dismissed." All 28 of the people charged Monday were legal permanent residents, also known as green-card holders. Research has shown that in the rare cases when noncitizens vote, it is often green-card holders who misunderstand the rules as opposed to intentional fraud.